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		<title>By: hairstyles</title>
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		<title>By: needed primer paint</title>
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		<dc:creator>needed primer paint</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An update on our progress: 

We have now tested almost every system listed above.

The leading candidate at this point is one that we uncovered after this blog post was written. &lt;B&gt;It is Jive Software&#039;s Clearspace&lt;/B&gt; 

We now have 15 users playing with it in a live beta and it seems to be the overall favorite. We are now assessing our ability to build a couple custom features so that it can meet 100% of our needs.

I will post up later more info. Just want to give anyone who was interested an update on our progress.

I&#039;d appreciate any thoughts you have on Clearspace or the direction we are headed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update on our progress: </p>
<p>We have now tested almost every system listed above.</p>
<p>The leading candidate at this point is one that we uncovered after this blog post was written. <b>It is Jive Software&#8217;s Clearspace</b> </p>
<p>We now have 15 users playing with it in a live beta and it seems to be the overall favorite. We are now assessing our ability to build a couple custom features so that it can meet 100% of our needs.</p>
<p>I will post up later more info. Just want to give anyone who was interested an update on our progress.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d appreciate any thoughts you have on Clearspace or the direction we are headed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Feaheny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Feaheny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would agree with Betsy&#039;s assessment on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cmsmatrix.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cmsmatrix.org&lt;/a&gt; site, about being a good view &lt;b&gt;at a glance&lt;/b&gt; of features - similar to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikimatrix.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wikimatrix.org/&lt;/a&gt; site.

I have commented &lt;a href=&quot;http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Confluence+Vs+TWiki&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, about these &quot;sites&quot;, with example to TWIKI, but same theory applies here. 

The sum of it is &lt;i&gt;Buyer Beware&lt;/i&gt; - to think that all of the listed features are apples and apples is wrong. Simply wrong. 

They can be very different depending on the platform. And in the end, really depends on what is important to you (like buying a car), as well as your long term strategy for your collaboration and knowledge management system.

I encourage you to do your homework Ed, as you are positively doing. Demos, videos and hands-on evaluations can not be underestimated. As well as some unbiased opinion that you can find from folks that are not associated with the vendors. 

Best wishes during your evaluation and review!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with Betsy&#8217;s assessment on the <a href="http://www.cmsmatrix.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmsmatrix.org</a> site, about being a good view <b>at a glance</b> of features &#8211; similar to the <a href="http://www.wikimatrix.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikimatrix.org/</a> site.</p>
<p>I have commented <a href="http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Confluence+Vs+TWiki" rel="nofollow">here</a>, about these &#8220;sites&#8221;, with example to TWIKI, but same theory applies here. </p>
<p>The sum of it is <i>Buyer Beware</i> &#8211; to think that all of the listed features are apples and apples is wrong. Simply wrong. </p>
<p>They can be very different depending on the platform. And in the end, really depends on what is important to you (like buying a car), as well as your long term strategy for your collaboration and knowledge management system.</p>
<p>I encourage you to do your homework Ed, as you are positively doing. Demos, videos and hands-on evaluations can not be underestimated. As well as some unbiased opinion that you can find from folks that are not associated with the vendors. </p>
<p>Best wishes during your evaluation and review!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Lepofsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Lepofsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edmund, I applaud your use of web 2.0 tools in reaching out to the vendors.  I&#039;m glad to hear our Socialtext team will be speaking with you in terms of solving your business needs, rather than just responding &quot;me too&quot; to a check list of features.   I look forward to working with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edmund, I applaud your use of web 2.0 tools in reaching out to the vendors.  I&#8217;m glad to hear our Socialtext team will be speaking with you in terms of solving your business needs, rather than just responding &#8220;me too&#8221; to a check list of features.   I look forward to working with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve found this website somewhat helpful in my research:

www.cmsmatrix.org

You can compare and contrast features, price, etc.  It&#039;s not the easiest site to get around, but it has virtually every form of software we&#039;ve been looking at!  One major omission: Atlassian.  Mindtouch and Socialtext are there, though, along with a cut-and-dried list of their capabilities.  It&#039;s useful at a glance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found this website somewhat helpful in my research:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cmsmatrix.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cmsmatrix.org</a></p>
<p>You can compare and contrast features, price, etc.  It&#8217;s not the easiest site to get around, but it has virtually every form of software we&#8217;ve been looking at!  One major omission: Atlassian.  Mindtouch and Socialtext are there, though, along with a cut-and-dried list of their capabilities.  It&#8217;s useful at a glance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Feaheny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Feaheny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ed - 

Thanks for the tweet invite to comment to your blog. 

You have written a great list of requirements - one that captures the best features for a cutting edge 2009 Intranet, Extranet, community site and/or productivity system. 

While I think the Twitter approach was very innovative, I applaud it for another reason: that of needing an innovative mindset to create a great collaboration system/community as you are proposing here in support of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.totalattorneys.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Total Attorneys&lt;/a&gt;. 

For the best deployment success, the champion &lt;b&gt;needs&lt;/b&gt; to have these ingrained beliefs and vision.

==

There are many WIKIs, collaboration environments, and knowledge management systems out there, as you are learning in your research. 

Creating content is an intimate experience for writers and contributors wanting to create, purpose, and show good and clean content. People, as a result, can get quite &quot;attached&quot; to their system; it is critical to have one that is meeting their needs, wants, requirements. 

I believe, more than the tool, is having the right attitude. The innovative mindset will have to herald through what will become a progression of changed work styles; styles that will need to be continually translated back to the contributing community in evolution and practice, with the right enabling platform. 

The system will be with you a while; you will grow it, it will grow with you, and so will your requirements. You need to know that you have strong product and technical support - no matter what. 

&lt;i&gt;Enter Atlassian Confluence WIKI platform&lt;/i&gt;. 

I believe you need a platform that you can really back and believe in. One that has all the key functionalities. One that is powerful, yet flexible and simple too. One that has not only a very strong parent company with huge customer base (in 108 countries), but equally important, a very strong, supportive, and large developer and partner community. 

I will not go feature by feature in response to your list; I can just say &quot;Yes&quot;. Seriously. It is that simple. 

Nonetheless, here&#039;s a few key points: open APIs, source code included, MS Office and Open Office application support (in/out), gadgets, widgets, blogs, notifications, SharePoint integration (possible need?), many other app integration, scaling (existing installs to 100K), customizable, etc. 

I will leave Atlassian&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt; to share the detail on these - Atlassian does it quite well, and thoroughly. &lt;a href=&quot;http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONFEVAL/Your+Confluence+Evaluation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Webinars, videos, free download&lt;/a&gt; - it&#039;s all there; &lt;i&gt;seeing&lt;/i&gt; speaks a 10,000 words better than I ever could in a Blog comment. 

Here also are a few of my favorite direct links: 

* &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/whats-new.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Confluence 2.10 Rel Video&lt;/a&gt; (~ 4mins)
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.atlassian.com/news/2009/01/confluence_goes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quickest end to end tour&lt;/a&gt; - bottom of pg (imho @ ~23 mins)
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONFEVAL/Live+Confluence+Sites&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Links to Confluence Live Sites&lt;/a&gt; 
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/plugins/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;About Confluence Plugins&lt;/a&gt; - over 300 and highly customizable for more as you need them
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/User-Contributed+Comparisons+To+Other+Wikis&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Contributed Comparisons to other WIKIs&lt;/a&gt;

In sum, ask around, do your research, download a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ConfluenceDownloadCenter.jspa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;free eval&lt;/a&gt;, do a test drive. 

It is simply &lt;i&gt;really good software&lt;/i&gt; and community! 

Best Regards, 

Ellen Feaheny

p.s.  I offer you a shared desktop demo, at your convenience to ask more pointed questions, if you wish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for the tweet invite to comment to your blog. </p>
<p>You have written a great list of requirements &#8211; one that captures the best features for a cutting edge 2009 Intranet, Extranet, community site and/or productivity system. </p>
<p>While I think the Twitter approach was very innovative, I applaud it for another reason: that of needing an innovative mindset to create a great collaboration system/community as you are proposing here in support of <a href="http://www.totalattorneys.com/" rel="nofollow">Total Attorneys</a>. </p>
<p>For the best deployment success, the champion <b>needs</b> to have these ingrained beliefs and vision.</p>
<p>==</p>
<p>There are many WIKIs, collaboration environments, and knowledge management systems out there, as you are learning in your research. </p>
<p>Creating content is an intimate experience for writers and contributors wanting to create, purpose, and show good and clean content. People, as a result, can get quite &#8220;attached&#8221; to their system; it is critical to have one that is meeting their needs, wants, requirements. </p>
<p>I believe, more than the tool, is having the right attitude. The innovative mindset will have to herald through what will become a progression of changed work styles; styles that will need to be continually translated back to the contributing community in evolution and practice, with the right enabling platform. </p>
<p>The system will be with you a while; you will grow it, it will grow with you, and so will your requirements. You need to know that you have strong product and technical support &#8211; no matter what. </p>
<p><i>Enter Atlassian Confluence WIKI platform</i>. </p>
<p>I believe you need a platform that you can really back and believe in. One that has all the key functionalities. One that is powerful, yet flexible and simple too. One that has not only a very strong parent company with huge customer base (in 108 countries), but equally important, a very strong, supportive, and large developer and partner community. </p>
<p>I will not go feature by feature in response to your list; I can just say &#8220;Yes&#8221;. Seriously. It is that simple. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, here&#8217;s a few key points: open APIs, source code included, MS Office and Open Office application support (in/out), gadgets, widgets, blogs, notifications, SharePoint integration (possible need?), many other app integration, scaling (existing installs to 100K), customizable, etc. </p>
<p>I will leave Atlassian&#8217;s <a href="http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence" rel="nofollow">site</a> to share the detail on these &#8211; Atlassian does it quite well, and thoroughly. <a href="http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONFEVAL/Your+Confluence+Evaluation" rel="nofollow">Webinars, videos, free download</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s all there; <i>seeing</i> speaks a 10,000 words better than I ever could in a Blog comment. </p>
<p>Here also are a few of my favorite direct links: </p>
<p>* <a href="http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/whats-new.jsp" rel="nofollow">Confluence 2.10 Rel Video</a> (~ 4mins)<br />
* <a href="http://blogs.atlassian.com/news/2009/01/confluence_goes.html" rel="nofollow">Quickest end to end tour</a> &#8211; bottom of pg (imho @ ~23 mins)<br />
* <a href="http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONFEVAL/Live+Confluence+Sites" rel="nofollow">Links to Confluence Live Sites</a><br />
* <a href="http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/plugins/" rel="nofollow">About Confluence Plugins</a> &#8211; over 300 and highly customizable for more as you need them<br />
* <a href="http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/User-Contributed+Comparisons+To+Other+Wikis" rel="nofollow">Contributed Comparisons to other WIKIs</a></p>
<p>In sum, ask around, do your research, download a <a href="http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ConfluenceDownloadCenter.jspa" rel="nofollow">free eval</a>, do a test drive. </p>
<p>It is simply <i>really good software</i> and community! </p>
<p>Best Regards, </p>
<p>Ellen Feaheny</p>
<p>p.s.  I offer you a shared desktop demo, at your convenience to ask more pointed questions, if you wish.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Diliberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Diliberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Scanlan,

You hit a few very important points in your post with regard to the key features to look at when evaluating a collaborative workspace.  The first, and most important, point that you make is looking at the ability to grow as your needs evolve.  When choosing any enterprise solution, scalability is one of the most important aspects of the package.  The last thing that you would want to have happen would be to evolve your needs for a few years, and then end up with years worth of data, trapped in a closed system that has grown to it&#039;s maximum size.  I am proud to say that MindTouch has single installations approaching a million pages and millions of users without issue.

Which brings us to the next point.  You spoke several times about mashing up your data and pulling in data from external sources.  Several other collaboration providers have the ability to pull in data, however far fewer give you the ability to query that data, or new data created within the pages, back out.  With MindTouch Deki, your data isn&#039;t locked away in yet another data silo;  to the contrary we store all of our data in XML and every single page and data point can be queried though our Restful API.  MindTouch extensions allow you to pull data from many enterprise systems, like SQL databases, CRM solutions, and even Oracle databases, then mash that data up with powerful visualization extensions and view it not only from within the MindTouch environment but in any other system as well, but querying MindTouch through our API.

Lastly, as the Total Attorneys Intranet evolves, you may need to build in more advanced fucntionality or custom page designs.  Our power scripting language, DekiScript, allows even novice users to create meaningful business applications on the MindTouch Deki platform.  In addition, our logic engine is completely separate from the user interface, which means, if and when you need to create custom css to change your page look and feel, there is no danger of breaking any of the business logic functionality or corrupting your valuable data. 

MindTouch Deki is the best solution for your needs; from our document versioning and search, to robust user management and group permissioning, MindTouch is the premier enterprise collaboration solution to build the Total Attorneys Intranet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Scanlan,</p>
<p>You hit a few very important points in your post with regard to the key features to look at when evaluating a collaborative workspace.  The first, and most important, point that you make is looking at the ability to grow as your needs evolve.  When choosing any enterprise solution, scalability is one of the most important aspects of the package.  The last thing that you would want to have happen would be to evolve your needs for a few years, and then end up with years worth of data, trapped in a closed system that has grown to it&#8217;s maximum size.  I am proud to say that MindTouch has single installations approaching a million pages and millions of users without issue.</p>
<p>Which brings us to the next point.  You spoke several times about mashing up your data and pulling in data from external sources.  Several other collaboration providers have the ability to pull in data, however far fewer give you the ability to query that data, or new data created within the pages, back out.  With MindTouch Deki, your data isn&#8217;t locked away in yet another data silo;  to the contrary we store all of our data in XML and every single page and data point can be queried though our Restful API.  MindTouch extensions allow you to pull data from many enterprise systems, like SQL databases, CRM solutions, and even Oracle databases, then mash that data up with powerful visualization extensions and view it not only from within the MindTouch environment but in any other system as well, but querying MindTouch through our API.</p>
<p>Lastly, as the Total Attorneys Intranet evolves, you may need to build in more advanced fucntionality or custom page designs.  Our power scripting language, DekiScript, allows even novice users to create meaningful business applications on the MindTouch Deki platform.  In addition, our logic engine is completely separate from the user interface, which means, if and when you need to create custom css to change your page look and feel, there is no danger of breaking any of the business logic functionality or corrupting your valuable data. </p>
<p>MindTouch Deki is the best solution for your needs; from our document versioning and search, to robust user management and group permissioning, MindTouch is the premier enterprise collaboration solution to build the Total Attorneys Intranet.</p>
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